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Identity
Person No.
30577
Old ROH no.
34809
Service No.
Unknown
Last Name
First Name
Ethelbert
Initials
E
Date of Birth
Unknown
Est. Birth Year
Age at Death
32
Death Record
Date of Death
Cause code
KIA 14,780
Killed in action
Cause of Death
Killed in action, during Rand Revolt
Military Service
Branch
Army
Rank
Lieutenant
Unit
Unknown
Defence Force
UDF 24,809
Union Defence Force
Unit History
Role at time of death
Infantry
Status
Active Citizen Force (Reserve)
Part of
Transvaal Scottish, formed 1902 after the Second Anglo-Boer War. Active Citizen Force infantry regiment through WWI, WWII (2nd/3rd Bns raised 1936/1939) and the Border War. Renamed Solomon Mahlangu Regiment 2019. Needs further research to break out exact era boundaries/role changes (e.g. 1953 and 1997 battalion amalgamations) as sources are found.
Notes

Born Cape Province. A geologist

Research notes

Unit was incorrectly set to "32 (Buffalo) Battalion" (a SADF unit not formed until 1975) — impossible for this pre-1975 death. Found and cleared 27 Aug 2026 while investigating a family correction email about PersonNumber 31346 (Lipschild), which had the same wrong Unit; a further check found 22 other pre-1975 records sharing it. Root cause not identified (no source in this record names a unit at all beyond the generic Unit2 arm-of-service tag, or the Regiment already on file) — Unit left blank rather than guessed.
16 Sep 2026, ServiceNo contamination sweep: the stored ServiceNo '76905983SP' was CLEARED. It was not a reading of this man's record. PersonNumbers 30575 to 30577 -- 3 consecutive records -- all carried the identical number, which belongs to the record at the head of that run (30575, Gunza, Henry (S J)). A value repeated down an unbroken block of PersonNumbers is a forward-fill import artefact, not men who shared a service number; the pattern holds across 850 such runs on this roll and is independently confirmed by Mike Sandham's research log, which attaches such numbers to the head of the run 167 times against 6 contradictions (all examined). No replacement is guessed: this man's real service number is simply not known, and a blank field says so honestly where another man's number did not.
25 Sep 2026, Unit2 service-branch sweep: the stored Secondary Unit "Army" was CLEARED as a duplicate. It was not a sub-unit, it was a service-branch word repeating what the Branch column already says. Secondary Unit is for sub-units -- a company, a squadron, a commando -- and this record's branch of service is unchanged at "Army".

Citations
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Stories 1
on 17 August 2026 · via source
ETHELBERT GUY: Uncle Bertie had looks and personality on his side, but his life was interrupted by the first World War, and ended by a really minor struggle for dominance in South Africa in 1922 when he was still comparatively young. I have very little remembrance of him personally and most of what follows is based on hearsay. I do know that he was my mother’s favourite in the Guy relations, and he was certainly popular with women. Tall, good looking and with a sparkling personality, he always wore a monocle and I remember on one occasion being taken by Uncle Bertie to lunch at the Carlton Hotel, then as now one of the best hotels in South Africa. I do not remember if I were alone, but I do remember that his monocle fell into the soup, and he had to fish it out. I remember too his buying my mother a piece of purple and silver brocade, at what still seems to have been an exorbitant price for a half yard of material namely 30 shillings: remember that 10 years later one could still get a 3 course meal for 1/6. With several million other young men Bertie volunteered for the army in 1914 and joined the Umvoti Mounted Rifles . What happened between then, and when he reappeared in the Royal Field Artillery in France, I don’t know, but he must have made an impression on at least one young female, because there is still a poem to him, entitled I think, “To a very gallant gentleman”. He left his mark in the artillery, inventing an improved gunsight which was used for years and a shell designed to burst on impact and spread burning petrol around; a forerunner of napalm. It was, however, turned down by the War Office as being “too barbarous”. It would have been employed against an enemy who had already used poison gas and flame throwers which shows how out of touch with actuality were the generals of WWI. After the war, Bertie got a job as a sampler on one of the mines, and joined the Transvaal Scottish , for company and for the social life it afforded. I remember that years later, when I was on my way to Edinburgh University I met two women on the Union Castle liner and on being asked if I were related to Bertie Guy, was promptly asked to lunch with them on Madeira when I replied that I was. I have a vague recollection that he became engaged a few short days before he was killed, but I do not remember
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